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>> martha: saturday with this fox news alert. the justice department could file charges as soon as today against suspect number 2 in the boston marathon bombings. he remains at this hour under heavy guard at the hospital in boston, hopefully he will soon be able to answer some questions. some very high level intelligence folks who very much want to speak with him, as you could imagine. i'm martha mccallum. welcome to a brand-new hour of our special edition of "america's newsroom." bill hemmer in boston. >> great to see you again. good afternoon from boston for one final day of coverage in "america's news room." you have one suspect in custody, the 19-year-old, dzhokhar tsarnaev. the other, the older brother, tamerlan tsarnaev, is dead.
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the younger brother in police custody at a hospital down the street from our location here after this tense and harrowing stand-off. he is listed in serious condition expected to recover. the suspect discovered in the backyard of a home in watertown after the homeowner noticed blood on his boat and part of a tarp removed. the stepson of the boat owner talked to greta late last night shortly after the arrest was made. >> the tarp on the boat, as you've described, had kind of lifted, which he found strange. he went over to the boat for a closer look. he found a strap that had been cut. not torn or worn through. it had been deliberately cut. he then was kind of stranged out by the whole thing. noticed a small amount of like blood in this area and then he took his little stepladder that he uses to enter and exit the boat. he went under the tarp, saw a
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small pool of blood, immediately there looked forward and because the tarp obscured a lot of sun line, it was gray and cloudy for ait here, he saw what he believed at the time to be a crumpled body, bloodied, in the front of the boat. immediately panicked. he dropped off the ladder, called 911. >> that's when police swoop in surrounding the boat, as you can hear a final gun battle. [gun shots] >> martha: what seen. what an unbelievable scene in watertown. this is the picture of him as he was entered into the ambulance because after a couple of hours, that suspect did surrender and that's the shot that was taken of him in those ensuing moments.
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with the help of the f.b.i. hostage negotiation team, those tense hours finally ended. but at one point, there was a lot of very understandable concern that he might have had bombs strapped to his body. but they were able to negotiate with him. then the bloodd and wounded suspect was wheeled into the ambulance and a city and a nation began the process of exhaling for the first time in a week. and celebrating after an exhausting 102 hours of searching for that 19-year-old. the celebration on the boston commons, chants of usa, usa. watch. >> usa! usa! usa! usa! >> martha: what a moment that was. molly line reported and kept us up to speed on every development as it unfolded. she joins me now live this morning from watertown. good morning, molly
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>> good morning. we're here on franklin street where the capture occurred. as you can see, the neighborhood is awake today. everyone was allowed out of their homes when the shelter that -- the order to stay chevroletered was lifted. it's a beautiful day and the square is alive with folks coming here. it's a little farther down at the end ofhe block where the federal authorities are pouring over that evidence that they have. of course, there is the boat to be looked at. but last night, incredible video was caught by a resident here in the neighborhood and saw everything go down. look at this video. the man, bob glatz, he was there when the law enforcement pulled up, along with his nephew and the entire neighborhood became
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an enormous crime scene in the final moments. here is bob glatz. >> it sounded like they said he's still alive, take cover. then some flash bombs or something, some loud noises went off after that. nick and i again kind of ducked down, not knowing what to expect. >> incredible that bob had the foresight and ability to shoot that in the intense moment. and he his nephew looking down from their home from an upper window. his nephew had a chance to just tell me what it was like to be in this neighborhood in lockdown and then to finally realize that the individual, this person that law enforcement authorities were referring to as a terrorist throughout the day had yet to be found, was right there on their block. take a listen. >> looking back, it's pretty scary because it was actually a fairly nice day out. we had gone out on the back deck a couple of times to get fresh air after being cooped up. and now i'm looking back thinking like, holy crap, this
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kid could have come up on the deck and got us. he was right there and we didn't realize it. so yes, pretty scary. >> once again, this area still a crime scene. hopefully federal authorities will be able to gather some evidence here and there is so much more to learn about this crime. martha? >> martha: molly, thank you so much. molly line in watertown where she was stationed throughout so much of the action that we saw unfold. what a story. we're also getting new reaction from the suspect's own family members, including their mother who insists that her sons are innocent and are being set up. >> hard to think here and being a mother, i can say is i am really sure, like 100% sure that this is a set-up. my two sons are innocent and i
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know that my -- never, never have talked about whatever they're saying about now. my youngest one was raised actually like raised from eight years. he was raised in america and my oldest son, he is really, really -- in our house, never -- nobody talked about the terrorism and my son, tamerlan, got involved in the religion, you know, like religious politics five years ago. he was controlled by f.b.i., like for five, three, five years. they knew what my son was doing. they knew what actions and where on the internet he was going. they used to come and talk to me. they used to tell me that, you know, that they are -- they were telling me that he's really a
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fearless leader and they are afraid of him. how could this happen? how could they, they were controlling every step of him and they're telling today that this is a terrorist act. never, ever this is not true. my two sons are innocent. >> martha: fascinating piece of sound from their mother where she says tamerlan, referring to, was a leader and she says that the i. was afraid of him. the suspect's father and aunt also have refused to believe these charges against him. listen to what they had to say. >> somebody clearly framed them. i don't know who exactly framed them, but they did. they framed them and then they were so cowardly, that they shot the boy dead. >> i see his face. what else do you see? if you see circled face of this guy, would you put him up and accuse him of blowing up people? how difficult is that? give us evidence! if nobody -- nobody else is
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asking for them, give me evidence. >> martha: not every member of the family is defending the brothers. their uncle says his nephews brought shame to the family. watch this. >> again i say what i think was behind this, being losers! not being able to settle themselves and instead of hating everyone who did. >> martha: fascinating. the uncle went on to say that he teaches his own children to love the united states. we do expect to hear a little bit more from that uncle just in a little while from now. bill? >> a grueling and emotional week as you can imagine. a tribute to the people of this town. they have been wonderful to us and i think they're breathe ago collective sigh of relief. you can see it on their faces as they emerged. the sun is even coming out. listen to some of the people i talked to just last hour who went through this nightmare with us. >> kind of feels like spring after winter, you know. everybody is just really glad to
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be out and around again and feels like celebrating boston. >> just emotional when you come around this corner, it's just a lot of crowds cheering and to come back today, it's kind of like a moment frozen in time there. >> it feels great. it feels like a giant weight had been lifted off the shoulders of the city and in a small way, we can start to get back to normal. >> i'm headed over to the red sox game. i really want to be part of that as well. i think people are starting to get into it, realizing -- not let this set us back and get back to normal. >> cool stuff. cool people, too. dave wedge from the boston herald is with me. you and i have become friends over the past week. you have really been the eyes and ears of the community for us. you're in watertown last night. i'll ask you specifically about that in a moment. but i thought the coolest part of the entire week, the applause from so many people directed toward the police and the firefighters and anybody who had a part in this. >> yeah. it was a very moving scene out
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there last night, bill, as you saw some of the pictures. i was out on arsenal street in watertown shortly after they captured the suspect and the moment i'll remember the most is there was a boston police department armored swat vehicle that came through with the doors open and some officers on the back and the officer driving was on the intercom chanting, usa, bpd. there were people hugging and crying and it's definitely -- some might think it's sappy, but it got to me. this is my city. lived here my whole life. this is so much fear in the city right now, to have them finally get that guy, the whole think was overcome with emotion. >> i'm watching this young lady carry an american flag behind us. the pedicab has two american flags on the back of his three wheeler. >> you know, again, it's not unlike 9-11. it's a time for us to be happy to be americans and again, there
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might be cynics out there that say it's jingoism, but it's not. this city was attacked. a police officer was murdered in cold blood for no reason at all that we know. and we got him. the police officers got him and like the mayor said, we got him. thank you to the police officers. in my opinion, it's the right reaction to be happy to be american right now. >> i had a sense last night after the last briefing at 6:00 p.m. that this thing was going cold. i think a lot of people felt that way. and sure enough, things just changed in a heartbeat. yet you've got a long way to go, frankly. there are investigators back out in boylston street again today. this is still considered a crime scene. at least this part of the city is in lockdown. but trying to figure out how two men who were essentially raised here, i mean, they live across the charles river, a quarter of a mile from where we are right now. what in the world can you write a report to explain or do you even need an explanation other than to say, this was driven by
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hatred and a pure misunderstanding about what humanity is all about? >> i think you're right, but we do need explanations. there is a lot of questions that we here in boston need answered. we need to know who are these folks in new bedford? what were they doing with all these bombs when they came back here on thursday night, the bombs they were throwing at the police. there were reports that other bombs have been found since then, possibly a bomb in the mercedes. we need to know were there more plans? it's nice to see the city getting back to normal, the sports teams are playing, and that's good fort spirit of the city, but on the investigative end, we really need to know were there more plots, are there more people out there? we need to remain vigilant. it's not like we caught this 19-year-old kid and it's over. there was more going on here and i'm sure the law enforcement folks will -- >> i think we have to brace ourselves for some of these details because they could be disturbing. these guys lived among you.
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>> yeah. when we spoke the first day, remember 9-11, two of the planes left from here. a lot of these folks lived in and among us in boston. they had a lot of ties here, they stayed in hotels here. it's the same situation with these guys. they lived here, they were part of the fabric of our community. they got scholarships to our schools. she were in our newspapers. they went to our colleges. so who were they working with? are there other folks involved? who are these people in new bedford and what were they doing with all these bombs? what really happened down there? we still don't know. >> you have a three week old son by the name of jackson. congratulations. >> thank you. >> what will you tell him some day? >> well, i'm going to tell him that when he was a baby that i'll explain to him what happened here in boston and that bad people attacked us. i have a 13-year-old daughter, too, and i've already ceremony to her about it. she was a baby when 9-11 happened. i was down there. so i've had to talk to her over
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the years about 9-11 and i've spoken at her school and about what i have seen and learned about it. i'll do the same as my son grows up. unfortunately, this is the world we live in when we have to talk to kids about these terrible things that happened on our soil in our midst. >> thank you for being such a class act this week. >> thank you. >> so that's a bit of what's happening here today as boston starts to reemerge and get back to its own life, a life that was taken from it. right around this time on monday, monday afternoon, six days ago, martha. much more in a moment. from the sidewalks of boylston street, the back bay of boston. >> martha: he really embodies the spirit of what we have seen so much of in that great city of bean town, boston. we are watching some scenes that we're going to show new a moment from fenway that you just have to see. it's a heart warming moment. we'll bring that to you as well as the entire nation really owes
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a great debt of gratitude for taking down both suspected terrorists in really such a short time. the long game started with a long night of violence on thursday when the two suspects engaged in a fierce gun battle caught on amateur video. [gun shots] >> martha: ordinary citizens have witnessed in all of this, right? the shootout ended in the death of one of those bombing suspects. the older brother, tamerlan and launched a massive manhunt for the other. here is boston police chief talking about the dramatic conclusion last night. >> i was at the scene last night just after this incident occurred. there was an exchange of over 200 rounds of gun fire. there were improvised explosive devices and hand made hand grenades thrown at the officers at the scene. this is the stuff that in an
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urban police department it's almost unheard of. so these officers acted heroically, courageously. they protected the community and they protected each other when they responded to this scene. i'm so proud of the actions of the watertown police, the state police, the boston police, it's been an incredible team. >> martha: the people are proud of them, too. people in watertown, massachusetts, poured out of their homes to wave, to cheer, to clap, the enthusiasm, the relief, you could sense it. it was palpable. they lined the streets and cheered those police vehicles as they pulled away from the scene having done their job magnificently. so the suspected boston marathon bombers allegedly claiming the lives of four people. let's take a look at these young faces. this is 26-year-old sean collier. he was an mit police officer, killed in the line of duty, shot in a late night confrontation with the suspects days after the
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bombing. three other victims killed by the explosions at the race on monday afternoon, including this young lady, 29-year-old crystal campbell. a restaurant manager who was killed while cheering on a friend at the marathon. and here is 23-year-old lo ling, a graduate student from china pursuing a degree at boston university as so many young people do. she was studying mathematics and statistics came out on that lovely day to watch the marathon with so many friends. and this little boy, eight-year-old martin richard, the youngest victim there. he was at a bruins game. there is a bruins game today. no doubt he will be remembered there. he was a third grader who had just hugged his dad at the finish line when that first bomb exploded, having been set down by the 19-year-old allegedly and that story will continue to tumble out. his family released this statement saying this: none of this will bring our beloved martin back, or reverse the
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injuries that these men inflicted on our family and nearly 200 others. we continue to pray for healing and for comfort on the long road that lies ahead of every victim and their loved ones. tonight our family applauds the entire law enforcement community for a job well done and trust that our justice system will now do its job. moving forward, bill, from the family members of that beautiful little boy and just a real moment of tribute o see the pictures of all of them, young, those people whose lives were ended so tragically on monday. >> i thought the statement that came out from the security guard's boss yesterday was especially touching. this was a young man who was clearly well respected and had only been on the force about 15 months, but you could tell from that statement, this was a good, good human being. i just heard my second horn of the day. so boston is coming back. in a moment here, we'll look at the investigation, these bombers said to be hailing from a war torn region of chechnya.
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>> i doubt it's just him. i don't think one day got angry. i think there was some serious planning that went into it. >> bill: everyone look for answers. police say the twooston bombing suspects emigrated from chechnya in 2001-2002, about ten years ago. in their own way overhe years, tried to plant roots in the u.s. but how did it come to this? steven yates, former deputy assistant to vice president for national security affairs with me now. good afternoon to you. thank you for sharing some of your knowledge with us. i think the one thing these guys had, they had the golden ticket, at least one had an american passport. the other guy had areen card. when you think analyzing terrorists who are home-grown virtually in this case, how complicated it becomes when they live among us. what is your view on that now in the early days of what we're finding out about these two men? people whowe see an emerging
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have familial or personal experiences abroad that are caddallized them. they come into our country and become useful recruits and tools for a network or a leader abroad that then uses them as a pawn in a future attack. we've seen thisatrn with fort hood, we've seen this with thattempt at times square and with this. i think we'll find in this particular case, it's not -- it's almost implausible they operated alone. so the radicalization happened, they operate among us and become useful to people who are at time and distance away from us. >> bill: you mentioned fort hood. that's been characterized as workplace violence when all the witnesses say that he was screaming allah akbar. 13 killed thatay, more than 30 wounded. is that a classification of workplace violence that needs to be challenged or reexamined? >> i think with all of these we need to take a step back and get a bit away from a partisan divide, the people have applied.
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but through republican and democrat administrations we've taken different approaches to homeland security and terrorism. what's happening is we're seeing that we're not doing a good enough job of keeping america safe. our intelligence and warnings are not sufficient. threatening people with prosecution doesn't turn out to be a sufficient deterrent to take these kind of activities. i think just a decade past 9-11, this is an important reminder that this is an enduring enemy seeking to use all kinds of tools against us and we have to be more vigilant and serious. >> bill: there will be a large examination about their ties to chechnya. it's one thing to be a fighter in chechnya trying to get independence from moscow. it's mother thing to be radicalized and fight on behalf of muslimism around the world. thank you. appreciate your insight. we want to go to martha in new york. >> martha: all right. we are watching an incredible scene that's unfolding at fenway park right now. what they're calling a new boston tradition. it is a remarkable tribute to the law enforcement folks and to
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the fans out there today and to the people of the marathon. we're going to bring that you moments away. stick around for that. it's very special and we'll bring that to you. also right now, there are armed guards who are standing outside the hospital room of the suspected boston marathon bomber. coming up, a moment by moment look at how all of this extraordinarily went down last night. >> they've got them! both of them! yeah! [ cheering ] yes! one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day helps defend against these digestive issues with three strains of good bacteria. live the regular life. phillips'. gives you 1% cash back on all purchases, plus a 50% annual bonus. and everyone but her... no. no! no. ...likes 50% more cash. but i don't give up easy... do you want 50% more cash?
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>> martha: the 102 hour manhunt for dzhokhar tsarnaev ended with a heavily armed 19-year-old huddled in a stranger's boat in a backyard and clearly in a desperate state of mind by that point. what did it take after that to get him into custody? we're joined by bill gavin, former chief executive for the
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f.b.i. in new york and miami and denver and is now president of the gavin group. good to have you with us here, sir. >> thank you. >> martha: bill, we've heard about the great stories of the f.b.i. hostage rescue team. we know that they went in and did this final negotiation with him around the boat which led to his capture. take us through a little bit of how you believe that probably worked. >> i think it probably worked from a standpoint that this one individual was, in fact, pretty well-worn out by the time they discovered him in the boat. when you had over 200 rounds of ammunition fired at the car and his brother dead, there was no doubt in my mind and we talked about it a few days ago that probably had a few holes in him from that and that took him -- took a lot of the spunk out of his light. he went and fired some ammunition during the course of the apprehension, but he was pretty well-worn out and it made the negotiations that saved his
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life, which he really wanted, i believe, a little bit easier for the hr team. >> martha: it appeared he did want to live. did he not want to go out by way of suicide, apparently. now what about now? he's in the hospital. we know that the high value interrogation group known as hig will be involved in this investigation. how does this work? you've got a patient in the hospital. the f.b.i. says he's in serious condition. how much access would they have to him? how much ability would they have to get at him and try to get him to answer some questions to the best of his ability? >> i think probably the medical people will make a decision as to when he is able to coherently answer some questions. if he's semi comatose, i don't think it's going to happen. but these people that do the high value target interrogations really are expert at doing it and they'll know when it and how far to go. of course, you'll have to follow the mandates and the dictates of the legal profession as well. >> martha: i was reading an article about james holmes, the
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aurora shooter and the discussion that ensued about whether or not they could give him a drug that would take you into what's called a marco analytic state, truth serum, so to speak. if they're concerned they don't have time with this 19-year-old or that they have a moment here where he could reveal any other plots that might be out there, what's the argument for doing something like that and is that something that you think could happen here? >> i think the argument to do something like that is to get the information that he has to see whether or not there is anybody else involved, any other targets. but the bottom line is, that's a really serious legal question. i don't know whether or not the united states attorney's office would approve of doing something like that. it's a very difficult decision. somebody's going to equate it with water boarding and then you're involved in that whole mess all over again. >> martha: how concerned are you over the next 48 hours that there may be something else out
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there, that they may have had links? what does that justify in terms of investigation, if it is a big concern of yours? >> it is kind of a concern, martha, but right now what they're doing is they're going through every scrap of evidence that they have. the case is far from being over. so they're going through every scrap of evidence they have that they got from his home or any kind of computerization he might have had. they'll get to the bottom of it. it is a concern. >> martha: bill gavin, thank you so much, sir. we'll see you soon. >> thank you. have a good day. >> martha: you, too. we have been watching on another monitor out here a really amazing and heart warming sight. it's happening at fenway park where we are seeing the scenes, you can see the law enforcement, boston police lined up. there was the first pitch. first they brought in people from the marathon. they brought in law enforcement officials. you have the mayor out there, governor patrick came out.
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the head of the chief of the boston police commissioner, ed davis was out there this morning. and the pouring out of affection for these folks from the people of boston was palpable. they're wearing be strong t-shirts with the boston logo on it for the red sox and clearly this is just a moment of joy and celebration for this city and they have begun a new tradition, we understand, with regard to the national anthem. i want to have you listen to a little bit of this. watch this. ♪ bright stars ♪ through the perilous fight ♪ o'er the ramparts we watched ♪ were to gallantly streaming ♪ and the rockets red glare ♪ the bombs bursting in air
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♪ gave proof through the night ♪ that our flag was still there ♪ ♪ o say, does that star spangled banner yet wave ♪ ♪ o'er the land of the free and the home of the brave ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> martha: very united in this moment of relief that these two men have been apprehended. one gone, one in the hospital in the city of boston. an incredible, very moving moment. we saw the boston marathon association as they walked out. this is the first responders as they poured out. there is the marathon association. the response, i mean the embrace
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of these folks and how happy everybody is on this gorgeous spring day to just be out of their houses, not in lockdown anymore and the opportunity to thank the good folks in the uniforms who did a tremendous job and there is the marathon association as they walk along the big green wall there at fenway. just a great american moment after tragedy gripped this city in such a fierce way earlier this week. >> bill: we can all stand and salute that, can't we? this town has been so classy all week. that is just more testament to the class in boston. well done at fenway and congratulations to the boston red sox for greeting their community the way they do. at the bruins game, they have a famous singer that sings the national anthem and they go crazy. he was 8 seconds in, he turned it over to the audience. they did what they did. they took it and they ran with
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>> i'm happy i can go to bed tonight. i'm happy my family can go, you know, go to sleep without worrying about some crazy terrorists on the loose in the
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town. the cops did an amazing job. >> martha: they did an amazing job. they are getting all kinds of thanks today. they're clearly relieved, the people of boston, that the suspect is in custody and they are out of harm's way as far as this incident goes. now attention is turning to what happens next legally for this 19-year-old suspect. the justice department hoping to file charges against him later today as a key group of republican lawmakers say he should not be tried as a common criminal. they believe that -- the feds actually, when they took him in, they suspended his miranda rights for a 48 hour period and decide whether or not to seek the death penalty -- listen to this from last night as well. >> this is still an active and ongoing investigation. we're going to be reviewing all of the evidence. before that kind of a decision is made in terms of whether or not to seek the death penalty, you review all of the evidence and it's a very thoughtful, long process that is engaged and it's the attorney general of the
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department of justice that makes that final decision. >> martha: all right. so there you have that. let's bring in fox news legal analyst peter johnson, jr. peter, welcome. >> how are you? >> martha: that's the u.s. attorney on this case in boston. she says it's too early to talk about death penalty. >> i was really surprised and disturbed as an american and as a lawyer in watching that last night. you couldn't think of a more weak insip mid remark that she was making. the charges that will be filed in this case, i haven't seen them, but i can approximate what they are -- are death penalty charges under federal law, including using and conspiring to use weapons of mass destruction. that carries the death penalty. now -- >> martha: she could have just said that. she could have said, clearly this is an attempt to kill americans on american soil. it would be my understanding that all of that would fall under death penalty, right? but we're going to start -- >> under federal law. the attorney general has to sign off on it. it's good question whether eric
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hold letter in the end sign off on that. but i think this should have an a sense of outrage and a sense of justice last night that framed it the way that you did. i was disturbed at that and we're not off to a good start in terms of the prosecution based upon what i was hearing last night. >> martha: we know that he was not read his miranda rights. they used the public exemption which gives awe 48-hour period to determine whether or not he will have this enemy combatant status and be in a different category of a terrorist rather than a common criminal who bumped off a corner store. >> right. the supreme court carved out what public safety exception, or exemption based on a case called corals out of new york city where a police officer asked the defendant who was in handcuffs at this point, where is the gun? the defendant pointed out the gun was nearby. this is even more of an emergency circumstance, in fact, the supreme court in a dissent in that case talked about a ticking time bomb exception were it be even more applicable.
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it's not even 48 hours. it's really as long as it takes. we don't know if the defendant is conscious. we don't know if he's speaking at this point. we don't know if the f.b.i., c.i.a. and the department of defense has had the opportunity to interrogate him yet. but there is such an exception under federal law. >> martha: that's another big question that i have. i talked to dr. siegle about this. >> i saw that. >> martha: so if he's conscious, does this high value interrogation group have the right to overrule the hospital or to say, we need to get in there, we need to talk to him now. this is a matter of national security? >> i think that's always an ethical issue for the doctors who are treating the patient at this point. but they'll barge in there as soon as they possibly can and they're going to interrogate him as long as they possibly can. where are the bombs? are there other bombs? who was involved? what country was behind you? were there other plans? anyone in your family involved? anyone you work with? anyone at school at university of massachusetts? all of these questions are relevant under that public safety exception.
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and they're going to be asking them and asking them hard. >> martha: what do you say to those who say he's an american citizen. >> he is. >> martha: he became one on september 11. >> outrageous. >> martha: and he should have been read miranda rights as soon as they got him? >> they're wrong. the federal law and the supreme court allows this type of interrogation. the question is, how long does it go on and is he prosecuted as an enemy combatant as senator mccain and lindsey graham and others -- >> martha: do you expect this administration to do that? >> no, because they've stated they will not hold american citizens indefinitely, even though -- >> martha: that's established under the supreme court -- >> the defense authorization act of 2012, they can. there have been statements by the president that they wouldn't enforce it. but if they wanted to enforce it, they could at this point. this will become a subject of debate. what's best for america? hold them forever or try them? let's see what happens.
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>> martha: as always, great to have you. >> good to see you. >> martha: bill? >> bill: martha, there is still -- they're still collecting evidence on boylston street. we saw the haz-mat suits on a short time ago. that process still continues. boston shows its resilience. the residence come out cheering the efforts of police and the investigation. as that continues, too, the applause from last night will be memorable in this city's long and historic tradition. [ cheers and applause ] >> usa! usa! usa !
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>> bill: all right. welcome back here on boylston street. before we get out of here, i wanted to share a little bit of the flavor of these bostonnians who are so proud. with me is a student. alexander is 22 years old. he's a huge new york jets fan. >> not really, but wishful thinking. >> bill: that is a joke. you're in red, white and blue for a reason. >> yes. >> bill: you were at the marathon finish line and you left four minutes before the bombs go off. >> that's right. >> bill: i don't know what these last couple of days have been like for you, or what you thought about, but how lucky are you? >> i am blessed. my grandmother said, my guardian
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angel was there for me on that day. i was very blessed to have the time in which i was able to walk freely without being damaged or hurt or anything. >> bill: you know, as america looks into your town, what does america need to understand? >> america knows that a massachusetts is a spirit of america. we're at the forefront of freedom here. we do not negotiate with terrorists. we do not deal with terrorists and freedom will prevail and we will keep moving on. >> bill: so will you. >> thank you very much. >> bill: great looking getup you got there. >> thank you very much. >> bill: red, white and blue. thank you. terrific young man. hanging out earlier today at this makeshift memorial that is set up down here, behind us. martha, i got to tell you, throughout the week, we talked to a lot of people from out of town who would come over here, in town for business or some other reason. but today we're talking to people from boston and they are the ones who have come out in force to come out and see for the first time, many times, the
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scene here on boylston street. >> martha: they're great people. they have a great spirit and i think that you probably your feet are going to leave a mark on that corner and they're going to call it bill hemmer's corner from now on 'cause we've been watching you in that spot throughout the course of the week. you've done a fantastic job of bringing this story to us. we look forward to getting you back here at home in new york. but what a week. what a week it has been. so many questions still remain for that 19-year-old and the interrogators have their work cut out and a big story in the coming days will be what they can learn and how much they can get out of him in terms of the information, bill. >> bill: yeah. very true. they picked him up. they picked up a trail a quarter mile from our position here. you're very well stated about how they go forward and how they sort this out. dave from the boston herald stated it pretty well. we need answers here.
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you need answers for the people of this community to go forward. that starts right now. thank you for your kind words, martha. and from me to you, it's great to have you back. >> martha: thank you. >> bill: i know it's been a tough week for you also. great to see you. special edition of "america's newsroom" today from boston in new york. i'll see you monday. >> martha: thank you so much. we will see you monday. that's it for us on this special edition of "america's newsroom." coming up, america live, right after this. [ male announcer ] how do you measure happiness?
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